The secularization thesis cannot explain today´s religious political revitalization. Still, at the same time, the reconfiguration of the way Christian churches participate in politics is, indeed, a product of the discourse of secularism. The strong discourse of secularism frames a political agonistic-deliberative field in which fully legitimized agents shape each other´s agency and that delegitimizes those subjectivities and types of agency that do not adjust to its polarizations. We should study secularism as part of a wider political way of organizing politics and the ethic-political realm into an (I) agonistic-deliberative territory where (II) only some subjectivities, collectives, and actors have fully authorized political agency, with the consequent marginalization of several other subjectivities, collectives, actors. 

In her talk, Prof. Dr. Macarena Marey is not claiming we should reject all the ideals and principles that are associated with secularism, as a separation between church and state, freedom of religion and religious equality, etc., but insisting that we must analyze whether secularism as the mainstream way in which we are framing many of our political debates on the relationship between church and state in progressive politics is doing us any good if our aim is to keep the state and the church separated. 

She claims that we need to dismantle the narratives of progress and the hierarchization of types of agency that are built into the hegemonic discourse of secularism, not only because they are false and unjust, but also because they deprive us of the chance of perceiving more hospitable practices that already exist in our world and of imagining ways out of injustice.